VE Steering Wheel - VY Commodore

[Fu Manchu]

You seem to be missing lots.
I'll try & fill you in!

The vf steering wheel is not a straight fit onto a vt - ve steering wheel shaft.
Vt - ve is inter changeable. I don't know about earlier models.

I was able to fit a vf steering wheel to a vt, by having the vt steering wheel shaft re splined for the vf steering wheel (not cheap).
On the vf airbag, l very care fully took the rear of the cover of.
Why? The vf airbag has two plugs that plug into the airbag. No matter how l wired it up l still got a airbag light that was current (means it can't be deleted with a scanner).

I thought l maybe able to get around this by install 2012 Cruze airbag (same size as the vf).

Now we are back to very carefully removing the rear of vf airbag cover from the air bag cover.
Once that was done, l removed the rear cover of the Cruze airbag.

Then removed (did l say very very carefully!) both air bags from their covers. Then put the Cruze airbag into the vf's airbag cover.
There is only one plug for the Cruze airbag.

This still didn't work. The airbag light on the dash would still light up, & when scanned the error code (if l remember correctly was 19).
I might have the wrong error code number. But what is important was that the error code was showing capacitance to high.

6 Months? later l was looking at a oem vt wiring diagram & noticed there was a capacitor in the plug that pluged into the airbag.
I had to carefully file the plug down, so l was able to plug it into the Cruze airbag.

After doing this, l took the top of he airbag plug & unsoldered the wires from the vt clockspring. Then l did the same for the vf clockspring.
Then l soldered the vt airbag plug to the vf clockspring. Put the top of the plug back on.

Put everything back together switdhed the ignition on. Of course the airbag light went of, but when l scanned the srs system l got the error code 19 (capitance to high), but a very big but, the code was in history, which means it could be cleared. And it did.

So l wonder if l could have got away with using the vf airbag with 2 vt plugs? Don't know?

Whichever wheel you use vf or ve, just remember to use the vt or vy airbag plug. Even though they are slightly different, they are basically the same , as in have the capacitor in the airbag plug.

When cutting the clockspring plug where it plugs into the clockspring from the back of the steering column cut the steering column side, leaving about 6 - 10 inches. That way you have plenty of space to be able to splice into the cars wiring system where it needs to go.

Should have no problem wiring the head unit as long as the h/u has the capacity for the steering wheel controls.
You may have add the wires?

Hopefully this is all you need to know?
If you need help, just ask.

@Lex doing the airbags

 

[Fu Manchu]

Do you use the VE/VF clock spring?(depending on steering wheel used?)

 

[Sbmrb]

Cool! Thankyou.

I have a VE E3 GTS wheel and airbag I want to fit into a VY. That’s my plan.

Steering Wheel will fit. Just not sure about the wiring. Side that was all

 

[Lex]

Cool! Thankyou.

I have a VE E3 GTS wheel and airbag I want to fit into a VY. That’s my plan.

Steering Wheel will fit. Just not sure about the wiring. Side that was all

The splines are the same, so no problem there.

The wiring is pretty simple. I used a multimeter to work out what the pins where for.

It should be petty easy? Just use the vy airbag plug if there is no capacitor in the ve airbag plug.

 

[kiimsalam]

The splines are the same, so no problem there.

The wiring is pretty simple. I used a multimeter to work out what the pins where for.

It should be petty easy? Just use the vy airbag plug if there is no capacitor in the ve airbag plug.

mate got a detailed way of rewiring to make use of the steering wheel controls of the ve/vf?

 

[Lex]

mate got a detailed way of rewiring to make use of the steering wheel controls of the ve/vf?

I used the vf clockspring & tail piece that plugs into the back of the clocksping. Then spliced into the standard wiring loom.
Ex. Airbag wires from standard loom into the tail piece that plugs into the clockspring, H/u wiring, same as above.
Horn as above.
It's very easy to do.

You have a ve? & want to use a ve s/w?
If so, the slines are the same.
Not sure but l've recently seen pics of the ve airbag & it has 2 plugs like the vf. So you might be able to use 2 vy airbag plugs?
Don't know.

 

[kiimsalam]

I used the vf clockspring & tail piece that plugs into the back of the clocksping. Then spliced into the standard wiring loom.
Ex. Airbag wires from standard loom into the tail piece that plugs into the clockspring, H/u wiring, same as above.
Horn as above.
It's very easy to do.

You have a ve? & want to use a ve s/w?
If so, the slines are the same.
Not sure but l've recently seen pics of the ve airbag & it has 2 plugs like the vf. So you might be able to use 2 vy airbag plugs?
Don't know.

i always find the steering wheel controls placement on the vy to be awkward, and prefer the VE or VF ones, the placement seems more natural. And would it be possible to make all the buttons function? Mode etc. Hence im considering to try out this swap. and hoping i can just retain back the airbag function? or atleast bypass the srs warning message.

which steering wheel is plug and play that goes along with the VY Spline? is it the VE? then ill just find a VE one.

so youre saying i just need the

- VE steering wheel
- VE clockspring

and the rest is up to my rewiring?

 

[Fu Manchu]

You need to understand the implications of different airbags. @Lex didn’t just bung it in. There are a few threads on all this now. @Lex has had to modify the airbag.

The airbag is an explosive device and if you stuff it up, could detonate the airbag and that’s it for you, or you are hurt and hospitalised.

 

[kiimsalam]

You need to understand the implications of different airbags. @Lex didn’t just bung it in. There are a few threads on all this now. @Lex has had to modify the airbag.

The airbag is an explosive device and if you stuff it up, could detonate the airbag and that’s it for you, or you are hurt and hospitalised.

yeah mate im aware that it can get really ugly if im not careful, im still gonna try it out though but with proper and detailed research especially on the wiring. Thank you for the heads up, appreciate it.

 

[Lex]

so youre saying i just need the

- VE steering wheel
- VE clockspring

& the tail piece from the ve wiring loom that plugs into the clockspring.
I didn't touch the mode buttons.
On the vf swc is the h/u. I have a aftermarket h/u that has the swc set up. So l was able to program the buttons, functions for the h/u.
The left side l didn't both trying to work out the cruise control. I just wired that function for another purpose.

Heres the vt - vz workshop manual.

2.69 GB file on MEGA

mega.nz

You'll need a multimeter to help work out the functions of the switches.

Heres the ve workshop manual.

Holden Commodore Workshop Manual 2006 - 2013 VE Free Factory Service Manual

Download a free pdf Holden Commodore workshop manual / factory service manual / repair manual for cars built between 2006 - 2013. Suit VE series vehicles.

www.allcarmanuals.com