Holden or Daewoo ?

[392RWkwSS]

They make commodores in korea now or daewoos they dont want to publicise it tho

id even go soo far as to say that the tooling for the new models comes from china/korea

the tooling for the VE commodore was actually sourced from japan. if that helped you in any way. better quality

 

[blackahcdx]

and commodore's aren't made in korea now

However the statesman is built here and exported to Korea and sold as the Daewoo Statesman.

 

[vn88calais]

Any Camira has a motor more Australian than any Commodore post VK.

wrong, camira is an imported nissan motor...

cheers, Todd

 

[blackahcdx]

No, Camira has the BUILT IN AUSTRALIA Family One Engine, just like the Viva Does

 

[VS Omega]

Alloytech V6 is very Australian lol

 

[haloeight]

the point that people miss is that the world is becoming a world of cheaparses, which is why hyundai, toyota, honda etc are doing so well atm. when you have to compete against companies that put out peanuts priced cars built by sweatshops at less than 1/3 of the cost of a properly paid and looked after employee you will always lose, because people dont perceive the value of that, they purchase purely on the $, then they all whine about how jobs are going overseas, its a vicious and uneducated cycle.
i wouldnt be surprised if holden is planning a move in the manufacturing entirely to korea in the next 5 years or so if the current trend continues.

 

[mrvncalais]

Zeta is from oz

To Clear things up this was taken from ww.drive.com.au Prior to the changes in the zeta lineup.


GM's product czar Bob Lutz shows zest for Zeta architecture

By BRUCE NEWTON 20 February 2004


GENERAL Motors product czar Bob Lutz has forecast a "huge" future for the new Holden-developed VE Commodore architecture, predicting it will underpin a minimum of 400,000 cars worldwide.

And Mr Lutz’s estimate on build numbers is regarded as conservative within Holden.

Mr Lutz is at the head of a heavyweight GM delegation visiting Holden this week which also includes world engineering boss Jim Queen and design chief Ed Welburn.

The group was given an in-depth tour of the VE, the Zeta architecture and various spin-off concepts at Holden’s Fishermens Bend headquarters on Monday.

"Holden has a major, major, major role to play in at least one worldwide architecture," Mr Lutz said at a press function on Tuesday at Holden’s Lang Lang proving ground.

"It’s potential could be huge. We’re talking rear-wheel drive, all-wheel drive, V6, V8. Some of the plans are still very fuzzy, but if you look at the European potential, the Asian potential, Holden and the United States and it could be 400,000."

At least some of GM’s plans for the architecture codenamed Zeta – which will be first employed under a production car when the all-new VE Commodore is launched in the first half of 2006 – could be announced as soon as the second quarter of 2004.

That date was mooted by new Holden managing director Denny Mooney on Tuesday.

The announcement could coincide with a Zeta-based Buick convertible show car tipped to be unveiled at the New York auto show in April, although that concept is far from confirmed.



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The difference with Zeta is the architecture technology would be primarily exported for overseas manufacture
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Holden sources say it is more likely that Zeta’s global role will be first announced in Australia. The Zeta architecture will be manufactured in Australia under VE Comm-odore, its derivatives and exports, in the US under Buicks, Chevrolets and Pontiacs, and is also under consideration to underpin a forthcoming Opel large car and the replacement for the Saab 9-5 luxury model.

The first foreign model expected to emerge is a Buick sedan late in 2006.

Holden already exports Commodores, Monaros and long wheelbase cars as Chevs and Pontiacs to various export markets, the best known being the Pontiac GTO.

The difference with Zeta is the architecture technology would be primarily exported for overseas manufacture and the sheetmetal on top would not necessarily bear any resemblance to a Holden.

Asked about Mr Lutz’s 400,000 build estimate, Mr Mooney responded: "It could be more than that, 400,000 isn’t even two plants. You’ve got to remember a plant in North America in a two-shift operation will run about 240,000 units, a three-shift operation will do over 300,000.

"I think that (Lutz estimate) is conservative."

 

[vn88calais]

No, Camira has the BUILT IN AUSTRALIA Family One Engine, just like the Viva Does

no the Camira has a Nissan engine imported from Japan, beleive me i know my sister has a Camira, JE i think its a 1987 model i know that, i work at super cheap and all the parts between a pulsar and a camira, both with the 2.0L engine are interchangable...

the 2.0L pulsar efi and the 2.0L camira are identical...

maybe the 1.8L camria engine is Built in aussie as u claim, but the 2.0L is japan designed and nissan maufactured, may be made in Australia, but u cant claim it as an australian engine.

cheers, Todd

 

[Pretender]

No sorry Todd the Camira 1.6, 1.8 and 2.0 are all Aussie motors. The 1987 - 1990 Pulsar 1.8, Astra 1.8 and Camira 2.0 litres use the Aussie built Family II engine hence the parts being the same. Nissan supplied the bodies for the
N14 Pulsar and Astra and Holden supplied the motors and gearboxes.
The Daewoo Nubira also uses this motor in 2.0 litre form as in the Camira.
The 2.0 litre Pulsar from late 1990 and on use a Nissan engine and are not a shared model with any other manufacturer. This motor is completely different having 105kW compared to just 88kW in the Camira.
Therefore your sister's car shares parts with the 1.8 litre Pulsar only not the 2.0 litre.

 

[adam_vr]

i skipped a few posts so dont know if its been mentioned before, but has anyone looked under the bonnet of a viva or maybe its a barina, maybe both? anyways one of the build plates still has GM DAEWOO on it