P0016 and p0018 codes

[lmoengnr]

Yes Holden had an ECU update that relaxed the limits before a DTC was raised but that was just a Band-Aid that didn’t really resolve the underlying issue which was poor quality chains that stretched. That software update to fix a hardware defect smelt like a “push the problem outside warranty” type fix.

Just can’t remember whether the update was for early or late VE’s and/or whether it was rolled out to all V6’s regardless

Pretty sure it was for vehicles prior to MY9.5.

 

[dylan720]

The chains are genuine revised apparently thats what i was yold by the mechanic who did them in the 1st place ive bitten the bullet pulling it apart tomorrow gonna see how i go.

 

[woteva]

A workmate has had P0018 for the last 12 months on his VE series 2 Omega LFW over 250,000kms, had no chain work done for the last 10 years since he has owned it. Start the car and clear codes, can drive for hours until stopping engine, next start it shows P0018 again. No noises.
Last year I did look at the sensors and swapped between intake / exhaust on the drivers side, no change.
Have also removed and checked VVT solenoids. Applied some volts and cleaned with brake cleaner, no change.

He was going to take it to an auto electrician late last year, but is not too worried about it.

 

[dylan720]

So ive pulled it apart one chain is stretched by about a link it looks like compared to the other side chain im buying a new kit does anyone know what the oex kit from repco is like its about 700 but i can get it for 600 on my club card

 

[woteva]

How did you go with chain replacements ?

Workmate has asked me again today if I am keen to tackle his chain replacements. Never done it before.
I have said he will need to leave me his car for a few weeks so I can work on it in my spare time, he said OK

 

[Lex]

How did you go with chain replacements ?

Workmate has asked me again today if I am keen to tackle his chain replacements. Never done it before.
I have said he will need to leave me his car for a few weeks so I can work on it in my spare time, he said OK

Tell him 2 -6 months, in case of unforseen problems. Longer it takes, the more l'm going to charge you. So, it could end up costing $10 k - 20 k.
That might slow him down?

 

[krusing]

So ive pulled it apart one chain is stretched by about a link it looks like compared to the other side chain im buying a new kit does anyone know what the oex kit from repco is like its about 700 but i can get it for 600 on my club card

@woteva
I bought the exact same kit from Repco,
And that was approx 45,000 k's ago

 

[krusing]

How did you go with chain replacements ?

Workmate has asked me again today if I am keen to tackle his chain replacements. Never done it before.
I have said he will need to leave me his car for a few weeks so I can work on it in my spare time, he said OK

@woteva

Its not too hard,
The hardest part was getting the Harmonic Balancer off.

I have done it twice, because the first chain kit was a piece of Cheap Chinese shyt,
The magic tools to get it right, are the Cam Lock Tools, best investment I did, especially learning about Alloytecs,
Before I bought my Adventra, I didn't know anything about the Alloytec's,

The Cam lock tools saves piss farting around with Stage 1 and Stage 2 Timing
I used Stage 2 Timing [personal choice], I marked the new Chain links with fluorescent Chalk markers
as its easier to see the markings through the sprocket holes.

 

[krusing]

@woteva

I forgot to mention,
While you have it pulled down,
Replace the Oil Pump.

 

[woteva]

@woteva
I bought the exact same kit from Repco,
And that was approx 45,000 k's ago

I havnt checked out the Repco offering and was looking at the kit from Mace

INA TIMING CHAIN KIT WITH GEARS TO SUIT HOLDEN SIDI LF1 LFW LLT LFX 3.0L 3.6L V6

These V6 engines are renowned for defective timing chains. That dreaded rattle at idle or a random check engine light could be the tell-tale signs that the factory chains have stretched. Prolonging the replacement of these chains could potentially lead to severe engine damage including bent...

www.maceengineering.com.au

And cam tools

MACE CAMSHAFT ALIGNMENT TOOLS TO SUIT HOLDEN ALLOYTEC SIDI LU1 LLT LFX LF1 LFW 3.0L 3.2L 3.6L V6

These high-quality Australian made tools are used for aligning the camshafts on 3.0L 3.2L 3.6L V6 engines while performing any work on the engine such as replacing timing chains.

www.maceengineering.com.au

I do want him to get an auto sparky to check first it is not a sensor problem as there is only a P0018 code on every start up.

Have also read the problem could be cam phasers or sensor gear has moved ?